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I have various hole saws for electrical work and I found one that does my 2 inch gauges and 3.5 gauges.
Dragon, I too have quite a few hole saws. I'm just in too much of a hurry to finish the truck right now. And usually when I'm rushing like this something's bound to go wrong! Took way too long to find the F-600 panel... :pray: I'll save up-grading the instruments for a later date. :(
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Thunderfoot, what gauge did you use for the volts? Thanks
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BTW I have done the F600 swap AND a 3G swap,just want to keep an eye on it.
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LANCE65 wrote:Thunderfoot, what gauge did you use for the volts? Thanks
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BTW I have done the F600 swap AND a 3G swap,just want to keep an eye on it.
I did mine a little different as I mounted the guts from the voltage gauge in place of the guts for the amp gauge, I then took the two wires that were for the amp gauge (red and yellow) and tied one to the ground wire (Black wire) and the other to the (Black/green stripped) for 12V source on the instrument cluster wires. I didn't use any of the new gauge wires.

You could still tie into the Black/green stripped wire for power, and for that short of a run 16 gauge would be plenty. If you make it longer I would check with the instructions for the gauge, but 16 gauge should be good for about any length you would use on the truck. :2cents:

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basketcase0302 wrote:.... maybe I'm looking too hard...And my "color coded" laminated classic wiring diagram is blurry, (right eye issues past two days / maybe metal in my right eye). :doh:
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Where did you get that schematic?

I just got a f600 panel for my '71. I'm about a rock when it comes to wiring - any pointers would be appreciated.
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I'm thinking I want to do this conversion on my '70. I need a better place to put my hard oil pressure gauge, and I'm going to want an oil-pressure-operated switch to power an hourmeter. If I could afford an old Sun two piece Tach, I'd install one of them too.

do we have a reliable source for these panels?
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ebay the junkyard or the parts wanted section.
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Where did you get that schematic?

I just got a f600 panel for my '71. I'm about a rock when it comes to wiring - any pointers would be appreciated.
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We got one for the Ranchero a few years back, they're handy if you're out on the road and the CRS kicks in! :lol:
Gotta' say I believe I found one or two wire discrepancies in the one for my 71' though. But like always...in too much of a hurry to verify. Fordification's wiring diagrams have gotten me out of a lot of trouble! :thup:
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Here's mine I just got to put in my '71:
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Basketcase, you wouldn't happen to remember what goes to where, do ya?

Update 1:

This is what I found in my dash:
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Update 2:

Turning this into a "How-To" post.

Checked the '70 wiring-diagram, and traced the wires on the new gauge, this is what I came up with.

New Dash:
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Not sure what the red, yellow, and black wires go to in the Goose. and I am assuming the purple-red wires are what they are labeled (THR= Carb-throttle):
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I just realized, it seems that the wires on both sides are they same colors and match up. :rock:

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Semi-finished, but working, product:

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SoCalExile,

Very sweet looking F-600 panel man, looks like it came off a parts shelf from an air-conditioned warehouse. :eek:
Basketcase, you wouldn't happen to remember what goes to where, do ya?
If you go back a post or two here in this thread (sorry I can't remember-CRS kickin' in) you'll see where TF helped me out here. Seems like there were two wires I had to "dead-end" or simply cap off? :hmm:
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basketcase0302 wrote:SoCalExile,

Very sweet looking F-600 panel man, looks like it came off a parts shelf from an air-conditioned warehouse. :eek:
Basketcase, you wouldn't happen to remember what goes to where, do ya?
If you go back a post or two here in this thread (sorry I can't remember-CRS kickin' in) you'll see where TF helped me out here. Seems like there were two wires I had to "dead-end" or simply cap off? :hmm:
Thanks. Got it off eBay.

I was under the impression when I started that my 71 wouldn't be the same "plug and play" as earlier years. All I needed to figure out was the purple wire.

I still need to find a tach and something to replace the vacuum gauge with (clock or a vac suitable for gas engines).

Oh yeah, I moved the wiper switch up so it's easier to get to. I plan to do that with the other switches, so I need to find something to put in there. Anyone know where to find good-looking caps to cover them with?
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Basketcase, how do your gauges read? I'm noticing that my heat is high, and my oil pressure is low, but these gauges are meant for a diesel. So how would they read in relation to gauges made for a gas engine?
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SoCalExile on Fri May 14, 2010 10:30 pm
Basketcase, how do your gauges read? I'm noticing that my heat is high, and my oil pressure is low, but these gauges are meant for a diesel. So how would they read in relation to gauges made for a gas engine?
I haven't gotten that far yet, (still haven't fired the "new" engine). :(
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The guy doing my exhaust is pretty knowledgeable about diesel and gas engines. He told me diesel's run slightly hotter because they fire from compression.

Bottom line is that I don't like the fact that the F600 gauges don't give hard numbers on their readings, and I will be looking to swap out the gauges for aftermarket mechanical ones.

Anyone out there tried this? What did you do?
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SoCalExile wrote:Here's mine I just got to put in my '71:
Turning this into a "How-To" post.

Checked the '70 wiring-diagram, and traced the wires on the new gauge, this is what I came up with.

New Dash:
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Not sure what the red, yellow, and black wires go to in the Goose. and I am assuming the purple-red wires are what they are labeled (THR= Carb-throttle):
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Dude. You're my hero. I just got one of these panels for our '71 and was really dreading that part. Now all I need is the connector for the wiring harness side of things. I have the one that came with the dash, but not the male end that goes to the truck. Anybody got a spare from a '67-'69?

Still trying to find a distributor with a tach drive too. Mine actually came with the tach! But since its a cable drive I need the distributor with the drive. Or find one that looks similar, the stock tach only goes to 4k anyway.

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Anyone have this part? :D Pm me if you have an extra!

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Daaaamn that's a nice lookin' panel!
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