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Turn Signal Flasher

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I was trying to clean up the wiring on my instrument cluster today and have a question about the turn signal flasher. The wiring to the turn signal bulbs was cut so I soldered them back together. It looks like the flasher is supposed to go on the left side where the vertical slot and sticky stuff is left over, is that correct? Also, how is the flasher wired? The diagram (http://fordification.com/tech/wiring/wi ... tpanel.jpg) says that there should be a black/green wire and a blue wire going to the flasher and then that runs back into the bunch of wires that goes into the connector. The problem is I don't see either of these wires coming from the connector? Can someone tell me how the flasher is supposed to be wired?

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jrreed1634 wrote:I was trying to clean up the wiring on my instrument cluster today and have a question about the turn signal flasher. The wiring to the turn signal bulbs was cut so I soldered them back together. It looks like the flasher is supposed to go on the left side where the vertical slot and sticky stuff is left over, is that correct? Also, how is the flasher wired? The diagram (http://fordification.com/tech/wiring/wi ... tpanel.jpg) says that there should be a black/green wire and a blue wire going to the flasher and then that runs back into the bunch of wires that goes into the connector. The problem is I don't see either of these wires coming from the connector? Can someone tell me how the flasher is supposed to be wired?

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Not sure what you mean by that....I was just trying to get it back to how it is supposed to be and I wasn't sure where the flasher is supposed to mount and how it is wired. What is the upgrade you are doing?
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jrreed1634 wrote:Not sure what you mean by that....I was just trying to get it back to how it is supposed to be and I wasn't sure where the flasher is supposed to mount and how it is wired. What is the upgrade you are doing?

I'm going from a Amp & Oil idiot lights to full gauges like you have Okay As for the flasher unit it was just hanging behind the cluster held by tape and tyraps from the factory On mine the flasher unit has a orange/yellow stripe and a light blue wire. So when say how's its wired did something get pulled loose? Here is my cluster I can't attach a picture I'm on my iPhone but I can send you a link http://www.hottottyscreations.com/68FordTRK08608.JPG. I had to remove a pin on the connector on mine to put the flasher unit back into the wiring harness. So my 68 had the flasher unit inter grated into the connector but the cluster I bought didn't have the flasher inter grated into the connector.
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Yes, it mounts onto the rear of the instrument panel. It pulls power from wire #40 (Blue w/ white stripe) which changes to wire #383 (red w/ white stripe) which comes right from the fuse panel to the flasher can. From there it leads to the flasher switch.
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The above color coded diagram won't always be correct though. There's been a lot of discussion here through the years on how Ford could/would run out of wire on a line and possibly throw another color into the truck to keep the line moving? But for the most part is is accurate enough to follow. :wink:
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Okay I have one question most all the wiring diagrams here show the flasher on the back side of the cluster and going into the 12 pin connector what year did they stop inter grating it into the 12 pin connector and making it external? Because the FIP cluster I bought had no flasher behind the cluster and no wiring for it . This has been driving me nut if it wasn't for the wiring diagrams here I would have pulled all my hair out this place is a life saver.
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That is the same issue that I ran into. The diagrams show it going into the connector but on my harness there are no wires for it and no room in the connector. My guess is for 67 it was not included in the harness from the gauge cluster and was just connected separately to the main harness. I don't have my main harness with me right now so I can't check how it was when I took it out of the truck.
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Guys,
Easy way I remember the changes is that the 70-72 got the printed circuit board. The 70-72's should have the flasher can behind the panel like my 71' did, (prior to my F-600 panel install). Dash mounted flasher can being the 67-69 years. I can also see some PO easily cutting the flasher part of the wiring harness out of an instrument panel as a possibility? :hmm:
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basketcase0302 wrote:Guys,
Easy way I remember the changes is that the 70-72 got the printed circuit board. The 70-72's should have the flasher can behind the panel like my 71' did, (prior to my F-600 panel install). Dash mounted flasher can being the 67-69 years. I can also see some PO easily cutting the flasher part of the wiring harness out of an instrument panel as a possibility? :hmm:

Thank You because that help both of mine are pre 70 no circuit board ( i forgot all about that in the tech article ) and both are unmolested cluster neither one was cut or changed the 68 had the flasher in the connector and the cluster I bought didn't and I was just scratching head trying figure that out. So my fix was remove the red ( Amp Meter ) wire pin out of the connector and stick the light blue ( flasher ) wire in the connector and the orange ( flasher ) wire I just stuck in the top hole on the connector because it was empty plug it into the connector on the truck and turn on ingition and bingo everything works the way it should so the only wire I don't know what to do with is the green/red wire that goes to the amp idiot light it doesn't use this light for a shunt because i've had the dash out of the truck for a month now and it starts and charges the battery so now what I'm going to do is hook the red from the amp meter to the black/yellow wire comes direct from the positive side of the battery on the started solinoid and the yellow to the black wire off the alt and I'm done with my dash cluster
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DCrusher, Are you sure what your calling wiring for an "amperage idiot light" isn't actually wiring for the voltage idiot light? I thought the voltage idiot light was the more common, (not requiring a shunt). That might explain the wiring in your truck not having a shunt? :hmm:
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basketcase0302 wrote:DCrusher, Are you sure what your calling wiring for an "amperage idiot light" isn't actually wiring for the voltage idiot light? I thought the voltage idiot light was the more common, (not requiring a shunt). That might explain the wiring in your truck not having a shunt? :hmm:
WOW you are the first to say this YES this is what I called a Voltage Idiot Light after many hours of going over and over wiring diagrams this is the samething I thought. So I have figure out I'll take the 65Amp wiring diagram and another one I found on here and added the 4amp inline fuses inbetween the 2 leads Red and Yellow and attach them per the wiring diagrams and be done with it. Someone keeps talking about shunt on here thats also in the tech article to.. It has kept me second guessing myself. Thanx You you have made me feel that I'm heading in the right direction.. the question is are we helping jrreed1634 at all.
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I don't have my main harness with me right now so I can't check how it was when I took it out of the truck.
You would need to verify if the wiring in the harness is there, (it should be). :pray:
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My main goal was to get the wiring on for the gauges cleaned up so that when I go to wire the entire truck I have less issues. I am going to take a look at the original harness in the next couple of weeks to see what I can reuse when I get the new harness and will see if I can find the flasher and wiring for it. I am planning on going with a EZ wiring kit. I am sure I will have questions about the main harness regarding the turn signal flasher and much more but will cross that bridge I guess when I get there. Thanks for the help.
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jrreed1634 wrote:My main goal was to get the wiring on for the gauges cleaned up so that when I go to wire the entire truck I have less issues. I am going to take a look at the original harness in the next couple of weeks to see what I can reuse when I get the new harness and will see if I can find the flasher and wiring for it. I am planning on going with a EZ wiring kit. I am sure I will have questions about the main harness regarding the turn signal flasher and much more but will cross that bridge I guess when I get there. Thanks for the help.

WOW is the harness that messed up that bad that you have to replace it? The thing worries me is unless you get an OEM harness the color codes may not match then you will really be hurting trying to figure it out. I've never had one that messed up that I had to replace I just replace wire for wire another words most auto parts store will sell you the color with the tracer that you want and gauge you want I don't know about ezwiring but does it have the OEM connectors? If it does then plug- n - play if it doesn't nightmare hack and splice.
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I will have to see when I get the harness next weekend. It makes me nervous using the original harness being that old and with the condition of the rest of the truck when we got it. We have replaced so much else with new parts I figure why stop with the wiring. I will just have to see and maybe I could just replace certain wires. The OEM type harness that I know of is from Painless Performance and it costs around $900. The EZ wiring harness is under $200 and will take some work to install but others on this site have done it without too many problems.
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