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blumule · Post by **blumule** » Sat Feb 05, 2011 1:00 pm

Ive got my brake light back!Problem seems to be a short in wiring under steeing wheel. A question though.I had my housing that holds the bulbs out of its rear opening . I understand it has to be grounded to work. With signal switch on , it just had a solid beep on the flasher and continuos light. So i jumped a wire from housing to frame and it started beeping as normal.I let it beep for a minute or two and when i removed the jumper wire, the aligator clip was hot to the touch. Is that normal? I didnt replace any wiring under wheel just rearranged it until got continuity again.if a short is still present could that cause the hot wiring at rear . That jumper wire was hot to the touch.I more thing, i read somewhere, i think on this site, about jumping a wire to keep parking lights on with headlights. Is this smart? If so i like that idea.

fordman · Post by **fordman** » Sat Feb 05, 2011 1:21 pm

yes you can wire the parking lights to stay on when the headlights are on.

Thunderfoot · Post by **Thunderfoot** » Sun Feb 06, 2011 4:43 pm

blumule wrote:the aligator clip was hot to the touch. Is that normal? I didnt replace any wiring under wheel just rearranged it until got continuity again.if a short is still present could that cause the hot wiring at rear . That jumper wire was hot to the touch.I more thing, i read somewhere, i think on this site, about jumping a wire to keep parking lights on with headlights. Is this smart? If so i like that idea.

If the alligator clip was not making/getting a good connection it will heat up from the resistance from the bad connection, pretty normal...
On the park lights: yes, just add a jumper wire and they will stay on, here is the post that talks about it and shows the drawing on where to put the jumper wire. http://www.fordification.com/forum/view ... 07#p359507

blumule · Post by **blumule** » Sun Feb 13, 2011 12:41 pm

Sorry for no posts, just been busy with other things. anyway ive about got this figured out. Ive got brake lights, tail lights, backup lights and turn signal to everything except right front.This is the white with blue stripe wire and where the aftermarket little box was wired into that i mentioned in an earlier post. Im assuming it was some sort of flasher to fix the right front signal by po.Anyway , this little box is now inoperable and i cant find power anywhere in this circuit to the rft signal.This box was wired into the blue wire on 1 side and the white / blue stripe on other right before it entered the steering column. Ive removed it and reconnected the said wires.How can i or should i say what is the order of circuitry from power to tss to flasher to instrument lamp then out to parking lamp? I cant locte power any where for my rt front signal.Is the solid lt blue wire or the white / with blue stripe power wire. If theres no power to either one do i trace back to fuse block or tie into another source? Sorry for long post i cant describe in short order, but i know thunder or fordman will know . thanks

Thunderfoot · Post by **Thunderfoot** » Sun Feb 13, 2011 2:09 pm

Look at the attached diagrams and start at the fuse panel at wire #140 this is the power for the Back Up lights, Windshield Washer and Turn Signals in that order. The power goes to the connector for the Neutral safety switch for the reverse lights then splits off as wire #950 going to the windshield washer where it splits off again as wire #8 going to the Turn Signal Flasher. At the turn signal Flasher it will send a pulsing power supply when loaded with the lights on, it comes out of the Flasher as wire #40 the light blue wire to the TSS. The TSS is where it splits the power out to the individual lights Right Front, Left Front, Right Rear, Left Rear...

blumule · Post by **blumule** » Sun Feb 13, 2011 7:02 pm

ive determined the extra wired in flasher must be a noise maker, for it is loud. po had it dampened.Its wired into the lt blue wire going into switch and the white/ blue stripe wirecoming out. Why does it work for both sides, I thought the white / blue striped wire was one side only.

Thunderfoot · Post by **Thunderfoot** » Mon Feb 14, 2011 12:35 am

Yeah, the White/blue striped wire is for the right front turn signal and also the right turn indicator on the dash, that is probably why your right front turn signal doesn't work... The light blue wire is the feed for all of them and it is still going into the TSS so all the others are going to work, need to hook that White/blue striped wire back up to going out to the front of the truck. Also check that White/blue wire coming out of the TSS and see if it is working if not you may need a new TSS or a new cam for it.

blumule · Post by **blumule** » Mon Feb 14, 2011 4:48 pm

yeah its definately a glitch in tss. Got all lights working with a little tweaking in steering column. Im still a little confused why that extra flasher works both sides of turns in conjunction with original flasher behind dash. The new flasher has two red wires. One goes to the lt. blue wire, and the other to the white/ blue stripe wire., but it sounds off on either signal.What the po has done who knows. Have also discovered a single hot wire thats red with a yellow stripe. According to charts its the dimmer to headlights. But headlights work right. This is a confusing mess. tempted to button it all back up and be satisfied with it .

fordman · Post by **fordman** » Mon Feb 14, 2011 6:04 pm

each truck except some 67's have two flashers. one is for the emergency flasher and the other is for blinkers. i think the one with red wires is for emergency flashers. the other with blue and orange wires i think those are the colors. is for turn signals.

Thunderfoot · Post by **Thunderfoot** » Mon Feb 14, 2011 6:17 pm

blumule wrote:Have also discovered a single hot wire that's red with a yellow stripe. According to charts its the dimmer to headlights. But headlights work right.

There is also that same colored wire for the "Brake Warning" light that is mounted to the left of the ignition switch on the dash, it is wire #640 in this diagram http://www.fordification.com/tech/wirin ... _81-85.jpg. it will be hot with the key in RUN but shouldn't be hot in ACC... This light is for if your brake system has a leak and then puts the distribution valve out of balance it will trip and light the light.

Glad your getting it working.

blumule · Post by **blumule** » Mon Feb 14, 2011 7:52 pm

ah, good one thunderfoot, i bet thats it. To fordman, yes there is two flashers. i for emergency and 1 for turns. I have a 3rd that a po wired in to i assume so he could hear it, for it is loud. It conected right before wires enter steering column. I guess since it spliced into lt. blue wire it works off both turns.

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