71tilt steering wiring tech article discrepancy help please?

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71tilt steering wiring tech article discrepancy help please?

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Guys,apology in advance for long winded post... :(
Not really sure if there is a discrepancy in the tech article here on the site-or if my original 71' column wiring is the issue here...Hoping maybe someone has ran across this, rather than having to ohm every wire to trace-which will take way...too much time (which I have a feeling I'm gonna have to do anyway). :(
I got a tilt column for my truck, (it was gonna cost me more to repair the non-tilt column) for my 71. The column was sold to me as a 76' tilt column from a van, but I now believe it is from a 79' 2WD model due to the wiring and from what I've read here in the tilt steering tech article:
http://www.fordification.com/tech/tilt.htm
But it does have a removable splined connector on the bottom, (4WD)? :hmm:
It measures the same length as my 71' column, so it will bolt right into the truck if I can get past the wiring.
The wiring in the tech article states 71' colors-which don't seem to hold true for my 71's wiring. Here's one picture of the 71' (on the left) laying beside the 79' tilt column (on the right) with the wiring colors visible.
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And here's another picture of the two columns with the 71 on the top and the 79 tilt on the bottom:

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The following wiring colors on my 71' column, (which are visible in the above photos) are also verified by my laminated wiring diagram from these guys:
www.ClassicCarWiring.com
Green w/ white stripe
White w/ blue stripe
Green
Yellow w/ black stripe
Red w/ black stripe
Blue
and purple w/ yellow stripe (in the photo) not on my laminated wiring diagram.

The 79' tilt steering column wiring colors (visible in the above photos):
Green w/ white stripe
White w/ blue stripe
Green
Yellow (horn ground per tech article)
Lt Blue
Dark Blue
Green w/ red stripe
White w/red stripe (hazard per tech article)
Blue w/red stripe (column shift indicator light per tech article)
Orange w/blue stripe

I can wire the two harnesses together per tech article as follows feeling comfortable:
71' to 79'
white w/blue white w/ blue
green w/ white green w/ white

After this the wiring just doesn't jive with the article. Anyone have any direction here rather than blowing fuses or having to check for voltage or ohm every wire to see where they go? :pray:
Jeff
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Re: 71tilt steering wiring tech article discrepancy help please?

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When I installed power steering in my '69 I used a column from a '73. Rather than try to match up wiring,plus the fact that my hazard switch had been in the glovebox until I moved it to the dash and therefore I didn't want the hazard light switch to be in the column,I used the turn signal switch from my '69 column. Just a thought,could you take the turn signal switch out of the '71 column and install it in the '79 column? If that would work then you would still have the same wiring colors.
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Re: 71tilt steering wiring tech article discrepancy help please?

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Just a thought,could you take the turn signal switch out of the '71 column and install it in the '79 column? If that would work then you would still have the same wiring colors.
Thanks for the post but I'd rather stay with the switch in the tilt column for a few reasons if possible.
1) The switch appears to be in much better shape than my old 71 (which I'd probably have to replace very soon.
2) I found out why my horn hasn't worked for eight years LOL. :lol: At some point the PO put a steering wheel from the dentside era in my truck.
My steering wheel uses the two contact switch assembly from the 79 model.
3) My plans will be to eventually hook up the automatic linkage / the hazard switch / and the column indicator light on the tilt column.

I can trace the wires, (via ohm meter) to verify where they go-was really hoping someone here had gotten over this issue and could save me some time. :pray:
Jeff
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SOLD-71 F-350 dually flatbed, 302 / .030 over V-8 with a "baby"C-6, B & M truckshifter, Dana70/4.11 ratio, intermittent wipers, tilt steering, full LED lighting on the flat bed, and no stereo yet (this way I can hear the rattles to diagnose)! SOLD!
Many Ford bumps / one 76' EB / and several dents through the years.
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Re: 71tilt steering wiring tech article discrepancy help please?

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Nitekruizer wrote: Just a thought,could you take the turn signal switch out of the '71 column and install it in the '79 column?
The switches aren't the same. :nono:

The tilt column switch is used to tilt the column. (Sorry if that doesn't make sense, it's early... But hopefully, you'll know what I'm trying to say!! :hmm: :doh: )
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Re: 71tilt steering wiring tech article discrepancy help please?

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From our "sister site" the wiring diagram for a 79 F-series including the turn signal switch wiring:
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And here's page 7 of the 79 wiring where there seems to be a discrepancy in the stated colors?
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Wire(s) #282 (Green) and also wire#283 (Yellow w/ bk) feed from the switch to the rear of the truck. In this diagram they both are stated as feeding the RH turn/stop lamp, (shouldn't the Yellow wire#283 be the LH turn/stop)?

I've got about five different pages of documentation to go with now. Hopefully the storms have passed through here by tomorrow and I'll break out the ohm meter to see how much of this holds true. :thup:

edited to post 2nd wiring diagram.
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SOLD-71 F-350 dually flatbed, 302 / .030 over V-8 with a "baby"C-6, B & M truckshifter, Dana70/4.11 ratio, intermittent wipers, tilt steering, full LED lighting on the flat bed, and no stereo yet (this way I can hear the rattles to diagnose)! SOLD!
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A lot of "oddball" Ford parts collected from working on them for 34 years now!
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Re: 71tilt steering wiring tech article discrepancy help please?

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basketcase0302 wrote: So do I leave this guy positive feedback for a column that I paid over $100.00 for-that has the above issues-when I emailed him prior to the auction ending asking what all was broken on it? :roll:
I'd contact him first. He might actually work with you and refund at least part of your money. He might also have the parts you need to fix it, and be willing to send them to you. :thup: I had that happen a couple of times on things I bought on the 'bay. By that same token, those columns, in good shape, usually go for around $225-$250, sometimes more, so the price you paid is a good indicator of the condition. :hmm:

But, fair is fair. He sold it to you with the understanding it was in good shape, I assume, based on your comment about contacting him prior to buying. With that in mind, if he doesn't want to do the right thing, positive feedback would be the LAST thing I'd give him. You've also got ebay and Paypal on your side. :D
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Why is it that there's seldom time to fix it right the first time, but there's always time to fix it right the second time???

That's not an oil leak :nono: That's SWEAT from all that HORSEPOWER!! :thup:
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