Installed Auto Meter gauges in F600 dash

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Re: Installed Auto Meter gauges in F600 dash

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Zorm wrote:Awosome! write up and great pictures. The relays are a great thought, plan on doing the same. I just picked up my 600 dash off fleebay for $35.00. Guy had it listed for a 65 F600, looked at the pic, then found 65 600 dashes on google, not the same thing, so I bid and won!!!! Ok, so you have all electrical gauges correct, what gauge did you use for fuel level? I now those ones can be tricky, depending on how the level is read with the stock gauge. Another question, my 600 dash came with a stock tach, anyone ever tried to incorporate that with out trucks?

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For the fuel gauge, you need to buy a fuel gauge that reads between 8-12 ohms full and 70-73 ohms empty as that is what Ford used up to 1986. So most of your fuel gauges come in different ranges so they can be used in the various makes of cars, and most will sell this range for Ford.

As for the stock tach, you can only use it if you have it converted. The stock tachs were all mechanical and were for diesel trucks. Our trucks did not have a stock tach option and need electrical componants. But there are companys that can do the work for you and give you a working tach, but it is not cheap. I have used redline gauge works for several tachs over the years and I know plenty of others that have as well. They charge $200 to convert the tach over, but they do an awesome job and you get all brand new insides with the old tach on the outside. Here is a link to their site: http://www.redlinegaugeworks.com/

CNM67 had his stock tach done there as well and it works perfectly with his 390. Here is a thread talking about the factory tachs with pictures of CNM67's tach: http://www.fordification.com/forum/view ... 84#p635684
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Re: Installed Auto Meter gauges in F600 dash

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sweet!! thanks for the info on reusing the tach. Once I am done with the stroker build for my 83 Cherokee, its Ole Blu's turn.
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RIch, did you incorporate the dash volt regulator with the fuel gauge circuit? I thought it was needed not only for the gauges but to cut the voltage to the sending unit?
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Well, I left it wired into the harness and did not bypass it in any way so if it serves that purpose with the sending unit, then I guess it was still doing that. I was unaware of its use for that and my Autometer fuel gauge always read accurate. The only wires from the original dash harness that I did NOT use were the ALT wires and the ground wire for the stock gauges (black with white stripe). I just wrapped them up in that black tape wad to get them out of the way. The rest of the stock wires were all used with the new setup which included:

all of the lighting wires including blinkers, brights, and dash lights
the temp, fuel, and oil sending unit wires

Hooking up the new gauges was easy. I hooked each up to the old sending unit wire and just put the new oil and temp sending units on the other end. Spliced each gauge light wire into the existing lighting wires. Ran the gauge grounding wires to the grounding locations on the back of the dash. And then ran power through a relay which is turned on with the ignition, which in turn supplied power to the power wires for each gauge. The only real "new" wiring I had to run for the new gauges was the power wire for the new gauges, and then the wires for the Voltmeter and Tach. Other than power, the oil/temp/fuel gauges used the pre-existing wires.
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67 Ford Fairlane GT - 390 / 4 speed (sold 7/15) - http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh67 ... c5hu8z.jpg
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OK, that makes sense. Thanks for the input.
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If any of you run into the need to replace the mechanical tachometer that some of these came with, the Auto Meter Cobra Tach fits perfectly! :woohoo:

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Thanks for the tip.
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Holy Schmoly! $170.00 bucks for a tach?!?!


I didn't have a tach in the one I got, and had to cut my own hole anyway. This is the one I used.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Jeep-CJ-tachome ... ff&vxp=mtr

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Nice tach
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mrsnicks wrote:Holy Schmoly! $170.00 bucks for a tach?!?!


I didn't have a tach in the one I got, and had to cut my own hole anyway. This is the one I used.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Jeep-CJ-tachome ... ff&vxp=mtr

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I paid about $200 for this one.
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mrsnicks wrote:Holy Schmoly! $170.00 bucks for a tach?!?!


I didn't have a tach in the one I got, and had to cut my own hole anyway. This is the one I used.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Jeep-CJ-tachome ... ff&vxp=mtr

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You are kinda limited in choices when you have a 4" hole in your dash panel. I got quotes on converting my existing tach and both were for over $400. I spent $110 for a Glowshift Tach and waisted hours trying to get it to work. Had I spent the $170 I would probably be driving my truck right now. :hw:
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The place that I use to do my tach conversions (when I need them done) is Redline Gauge Works. If they are not restoring the art, they only charge $200 to convert the innards to full electrical with modern components and do great work. If they are doing a full restore with new face art, then it climbs to around $400. But they are always worth checking out as they do amazing work and have done a lot of high end famous cars and a lot of cars for celebrities as well. Jay Leno and Chip Foose are regular customers of theirs.

You can check them out here: http://www.redlinegaugeworks.com/
-Rich

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Calfdemon wrote:The place that I use to do my tach conversions (when I need them done) is Redline Gauge Works. If they are not restoring the art, they only charge $200 to convert the innards to full electrical with modern components and do great work. If they are doing a full restore with new face art, then it climbs to around $400. But they are always worth checking out as they do amazing work and have done a lot of high end famous cars and a lot of cars for celebrities as well. Jay Leno and Chip Foose are regular customers of theirs.

You can check them out here: http://www.redlinegaugeworks.com/
That is one of the places I got a quote from. The mechanical tach I have only went to 4,000 rpm. I am sure they do good work, it just wasn't worth the extra $230 for my rig. So for $400 I got a electronic ignition and coil ($150), a HD light harness ($30), Tach ($170) and had $50 left for beer. :burp:
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Rich, could you post a picture of your gauges lit at night??
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I would, but my truck is still in pieces and my gauge cluster is on a shelf above my workbench. I wont have it put back together anytime soon and I don't have any pictures at night when it was hooked up. I can tell you that the autometer gauges are factory bright since the housings are complete and nothing was done with them. The speedo lit up almost as bright. My plan for when I go to put it all back together is to replace every bulb I can with the LED bulbs and then it should all light up the same.
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69 Ford F350 Crew Cab - 460 / C6 - http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh67 ... lqgskp.jpg
31 Ford Vicky - 1955 270 Red Ram Hemi / 4 speed - http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh67 ... bsibvn.jpg

Former toys -
67 Pontiac Firebird 400 convertible (sold 9/13) - http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh67 ... bird-1.jpg
67 Ford Fairlane GT - 390 / 4 speed (sold 7/15) - http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh67 ... c5hu8z.jpg
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