Factory air broken- '67 Ford F100
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Factory air broken- '67 Ford F100
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Hi! I'm new here! I just purchased a beautiful 1967 Ford F100. The car has the original factory installed air conditioner, but the air that blows out of it is not very cool. The guy that I bought it from said that the coolant that it takes is no longer made, and that some kind of conversion would be necessary. Would anyone here be able to provide any more information on what it would take to get the air back in working order? Has anyone else had this problem? Thanks in advance!
Hi! I'm new here! I just purchased a beautiful 1967 Ford F100. The car has the original factory installed air conditioner, but the air that blows out of it is not very cool. The guy that I bought it from said that the coolant that it takes is no longer made, and that some kind of conversion would be necessary. Would anyone here be able to provide any more information on what it would take to get the air back in working order? Has anyone else had this problem? Thanks in advance!
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Re: Factory air broken- '67 Ford F100
to the site.
If I remember correctly, you couldnt get factory installed air on a '67. '68 was the first year for true factory A/C. You more than likely have a dealer add on A/C unit. Are the controls for the A/C in the dash with the heater controls or are they on the A/C unit itself ??
You need R-12 refrigerant for your A/C. It is still made, but you need a license to buy it & last time I checked it was outragous price wise. Something like $60 a can. You can convert your current system to R134a, but it gets expensive.
Can you verify the compressor is engaging ?
If I remember correctly, you couldnt get factory installed air on a '67. '68 was the first year for true factory A/C. You more than likely have a dealer add on A/C unit. Are the controls for the A/C in the dash with the heater controls or are they on the A/C unit itself ??
You need R-12 refrigerant for your A/C. It is still made, but you need a license to buy it & last time I checked it was outragous price wise. Something like $60 a can. You can convert your current system to R134a, but it gets expensive.
Can you verify the compressor is engaging ?
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I don't believe '67's came with factory air, probably dealer installed air. The gauges/charging equipment for R12 has different fittings than R134. You can buy and install a fitting kit at your local auto parts store that will enable you to put R134 into your R12 system. Freeze12 refrigerant is also an option but less common. I always put a bottle of dye in the older systems when re-charging the A/C for easier leak detection.
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67 didnt come with factory intergal air units. they could come with a smaller a/c unit. either ford or it coul dbe bought as a aftermarket setup. r-12 is still avalable if you have the money and the licence to buy it. you can do a retro fit of R134-a. you will still need to recover (suck out) the old R-12 and have the system sucked down to a vacuum to put R134-a back in it.
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Re: Factory air broken- '67 Ford F100
You're all right! I investigated further and the unit is certainly a dealer installed unit (I'm just learning about these trucks!). I've uploaded two pictures- one is of the unit and one is of the fan looking attachment that is resting oddly on the gas pedal (perhaps it has fallen out of place?). Would it be possible to upgrade parts of the unit without doing a whole new installation? Thanks to everyone who posted responses!
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i'm sure you could replace the inside unit if you can find one you like.
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Oh yeah, that fan is out of place. I see your location is L.A. You can still get R-12. Just take the truck next time you go south of the border.
Just me but I'm converting mine to newer components (compressor, receiver/drier, hoses, etc)and charging it with R-134.
I keep promising myself I'm going to get it done this weekend nut what's her name always has other plans. Maybe I should take her minivan (which just got a new compressor and blows coooollllddddd!) and leave the shrektruck with her.
Just me but I'm converting mine to newer components (compressor, receiver/drier, hoses, etc)and charging it with R-134.
I keep promising myself I'm going to get it done this weekend nut what's her name always has other plans. Maybe I should take her minivan (which just got a new compressor and blows coooollllddddd!) and leave the shrektruck with her.
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It's not that expensive to change over to R134A if you do most of the work yourself. I converted all of my Fords to 134A.
I changed the oil in the compressore to Ester oil and replaced the receiver drier, and replaced the service valves with new ones. The R12 charge fittings on the service valves simply screw in, thus you can unscrew them and replace with the fittings necessary for 134A. You can get all of these parts at a good AC shop.
I then took it to an AC shop where they evacuated the system and recharged with R134A. That was over 5 years ago - still blows cold for me!
I changed the oil in the compressore to Ester oil and replaced the receiver drier, and replaced the service valves with new ones. The R12 charge fittings on the service valves simply screw in, thus you can unscrew them and replace with the fittings necessary for 134A. You can get all of these parts at a good AC shop.
I then took it to an AC shop where they evacuated the system and recharged with R134A. That was over 5 years ago - still blows cold for me!
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the r-12 and r-134a take different oils do not mix the oils ,i would suggest changing the reciever/drier and have the system flushed out the r-12 has gone way up since this last post it is now 400 dollars a can if the can is about 10 lbs like they use in shops.
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That's why on conversions you use ester oil, it's compatible with both refrigerants so residue is not an issue.
Of course, the Eco-Nazis are in the process of banning R134A now.
Of course, the Eco-Nazis are in the process of banning R134A now.
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