Anyone used this bracket when adding air conditioning?

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Anyone used this bracket when adding air conditioning?

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While looking for the simplest solution to mount and drive a Sanden style compressor, I ran across this:

http://www.vintageair.com/Instructions2013/901104.pdf

Check out the lower portion of the page where the belt routing is shown. Anyone used this setup with power steering?
It has the advantage of not using idler pulleys. But, getting the belt tension right for both the compressor and PS pump could be an issue. Squealing belts drive me nuts.

If this works well, the price would be a bargain if you didn't have to find / buy the other brackets and pulleys and relocate the alternator to the lower position.

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Couple things I see.

First, there isn't much "wrap" on the PS pump, which could be a problem.

Second, I don't think the brackets that you need are difficult to source. I've seen them on Ebay all the time. Also, running the AC compressor AND PS pump from one belt could be a lot!

Okay, that was three things - sorry
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Those are the very things that concerned me. The belt contact issue and the belt loading. Not being that familiar with what is the appropriate load for a v-belt, I was hoping someone had used this setup and could provide some real world feedback.

I like the way the '73 trucks handled it better than the way it was handled earlier. They still used two idler pulleys but I think the design was better. I have the parts from a '69 F100 but before going that route, I wanted to check for other possibilities.
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http://www.fordification.com/forum/view ... p?p=629196
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See if Tyler will make one for you. I've got it installed on my truck. I had to machine the original aluminum spacer down to fit, and make spacers for the other mounting locations. I used 1/8" spacers stacked up for these ones. Fit was great and structurally solid. The A/C compressor also gets it's own belt. The hardest part for you to find is the 3 groove crank pulley. I have factory A/C, so I already had it.
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I have a perfect 3-sheave FE crank pulley if interested. I also have the FE truck adjustable pulley bracket that also mounts the alternator down low.
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Oddly, at least, I suppose it could be odd, my crank pulley has three grooves. THANKS for the info. I'm just looking for simple. I will be in touch.

mrollings53 wrote:http://www.fordification.com/forum/view ... p?p=629196
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See if Tyler will make one for you. I've got it installed on my truck. I had to machine the original aluminum spacer down to fit, and make spacers for the other mounting locations. I used 1/8" spacers stacked up for these ones. Fit was great and structurally solid. The A/C compressor also gets it's own belt. The hardest part for you to find is the 3 groove crank pulley. I have factory A/C, so I already had it.
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Probably the simplest route would be to use a factory bracket
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and an aftermarket adapter
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/York-to-Sanden- ... 2c71533abf

I bought mine from the eBay seller, was very pleased with transaction and quality of the bracket.
If you are interested in the factory bracket, I have one available. It will fit any FE series engine.
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68RGR wrote:Oddly, at least, I suppose it could be odd, my crank pulley has three grooves.
I just ran across a link today that mentioned three-groove pulleys being somewhat common on our trucks. They came in two varieties; the first had all the grooves with a 6-11/16" diameter, and the other with two grooves with the 6-11/16" diameter, and the front groove with a 6-1/2" diameter (I think). Just thought I'd hop in and say that what you have might not be so odd after all.

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Ah, but, when Ford did it they used idler pulleys. And, on the '69 parts truck that I have, they used two of them. I can go that route but I am interested to know if you used a single belt for the power steering pump and the compressor when you used the factory mount and adapter shown in your reply? If not, how is the compressor driven in your case?

I used the same adapter mount on my '73 truck when I replaced the factory compressor with a Sanden style unit. And, it worked just fine. But, the idler pulleys and factory mount were already in place. So, that was an easy one.

flyboy2610 wrote:Probably the simplest route would be to use a factory bracket
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and an aftermarket adapter
[ Image ]
http://www.ebay.com/itm/York-to-Sanden- ... 2c71533abf

I bought mine from the eBay seller, was very pleased with transaction and quality of the bracket.
If you are interested in the factory bracket, I have one available. It will fit any FE series engine.
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