Good Morning Guys,
I need some assistance. I am trying to repair several issues while having the steering wheel off for replacement. But the problem I have is with the horn. When I bought the 71 F100, the horn didn't work at all. I found out the problem was the relay. Now with the relay replaced the horn blows constantly. I have the steering wheel off, the brush looks good. Wires look ok. But even with the wheel, and consequently horn ring removed, horn still blows. Any ideas where my problem may be?
Thanks,
Horn Problem, blowing
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Re: Horn Problem, blowing
Did you use a new relay? If not I suggest you try a different relay that you know is good.
The relay is grounded throught the steering wheel. Somewhere between the relay and the steering wheel there is a broken wire causing the ground short. Start at the wheel and work back to the relay.
The relay is grounded throught the steering wheel. Somewhere between the relay and the steering wheel there is a broken wire causing the ground short. Start at the wheel and work back to the relay.
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Re: Horn Problem, blowing
Thanks. Relay in new. Which means the fun begins..tracing wire.
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Re: Horn Problem, blowing
I like to start with the simple things which other people usually point out to me - do you have the spring in place under the "brush"? pull it out of its hole and check in there ,if the springs wasted or missing find a retractable ball point pen and use it as an organ donor
- still got my first first car 20+yrs later : 69 f100 sorta kinda pretending its a Mercury M100 w/a 70 f350 sport custom cab (factory buckets) 67 grille with 69 ranger cooneyes 68 merc box and hood,some supercool fiberglass fenders i scored way back when, 76 f150 disc brake frontend..currently running a 90 5.0HO 4bbl/c4 auto & 3.50 posi...originally a 360/c6 f100 Ranger with dealer added towpack (incl. kelsey hays trailer brake),boxside toolbox,behind the seat stowage & belly tank...only original parts left on 'er are the frame,rear end,rear springs,and rear bumper...
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Re: Horn Problem, blowing
Thanks. Brush is good.
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Re: Horn Problem, blowing
You might have a defective relay, to check out whether it is the relay or the wiring unplug the connector from it and with a test light, clip the ground part of the test light to the Blue/yellow striped wire in the connecter and then touch the test light probe on the (+) terminal on the battery. If the light comes on them you have a short to ground somewhere in that wire, as it should only ground when you hit the horn button, if it doesn't light then the relay is stuck on.
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Re: Horn Problem, blowing
where ever the problem is. it is because it is grounding out completing the ground circut so the horn will blow. the firs things i check are the horn brush. yous is good. ok so the next thing i would check is the wiring coming out of the column. how doe si tlook ahas it been messed with? if so i would fix that. i also agree about a possible bad new relay.
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Re: Horn Problem, blowing
Thanks for the info. Should the relay self ground? If I hold the relay unattached to chassis my problem goes away.
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Re: Horn Problem, blowing
No it should work either way, it doesn't have to be grounded to work, sounds like a bad relay.71FordF100 wrote:Thanks for the info. Should the relay self ground? If I hold the relay unattached to chassis my problem goes away.
A horn relay is a ground activation relay in that the activation signal is a ground connection not a 12V power activation, these horn relays just have 3 connections the battery power, the horns, and the switch which is the ground connection for the field coil in the relay to activate (turn on) the relay.
Shayne
I'm not "Brand Loyal" Ford-Chevy-Dodge-Toyota I have them all, one even cross mixed...
If it Looks good and Works good then it's ok by me. Everything has its issues from time to time...
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I'm not "Brand Loyal" Ford-Chevy-Dodge-Toyota I have them all, one even cross mixed...
If it Looks good and Works good then it's ok by me. Everything has its issues from time to time...
69 SWB (project) & 69 Highboy (driver/project)
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