Starts in Park and Neutral but No Backup Lights

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Starts in Park and Neutral but No Backup Lights

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The truck will start in both Park and Neutral, but if I put it in reverse I don't have backup lights. If I manualy move the switch all the way towards the left (driver's side door), the backup lights will come on. I did the whole "hold the switch in neutral position and bolt it up" thing, which was fine for getting it to start, however I really need these backup lights. Any clue what could be happening?

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Post by fordman »

could there be some wear on the lever that actuates the switch. or maybe the switch could be adjusted. or it could be in the wiring try wiggling it to see if that helps. thats all i know without investigating it myself. you can also look at the previous post about brake lights.
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I have a question along these same lines. I can't pass the neccesary inspection without the backup lights, so I REALLY need them.

My truck doesn't start in nuetral though. Just park. It is a 72 with a C4. The column is missing the gear indicator, so it wouldn't surprise me if some changes had been made to the whole set-up.

Any thoughts?

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What state requires back up lights to be operational? What kind of inspection are you talking about?

I have always been told that back up lights back in the day were a courtesy not a necessity.

Just curiouos now. :hmm:
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Washington, DC. We have to pass a stingent safety test. Brake pressure, tread depth, lights, wipers, wiper squirters, etc. It makes getting a 72 past the inspection TOUGH.

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just curious. how is the brake pressure test done? with a meter on the pedal? or is it a meter on actual fuild pressure?
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They drive onto a plate and hit the brakes.

It doesn't matter. It failed due to the surface rust and lack of backup lights. Completely rediculous. The rust is character, and in only one spot does it actually go through.

I am done with this truck. So if anyone wants a 1972 Ford F100 with a brand new rebuilt c4 and full brake rebuild (drums) it's yours for the taking. The catch is you have to claim it before the charity I donate it to does. It is a great truck, just not suitable to pass Washington, DC inspection.

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It failed due to surface rust??!! :eek:
Half the cars in Nebraska would fail! :lol:
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I'll post a picture. It will make you wonder.
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Maryland is the same way. It seems I had to replace all the body mounts on a Pontiac 6000 to get it to pass. Yea right. I rubbed with black silicon and armor all. The inspector said I did a great job, how hard was it? I told him it took me 3 days.

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when we had inspections in kansas years ago. i took my old riviera up to get inspected. one tire didn't pass so i went home and aired up the spare that had a nail in it and drove it down there. the guy came out and looked at it while you could hear air rushing out of it and said it looked good. he passed me. i think i tried to park on the air hose that went across the drive to fool him but i still don't know if i fooled him or of he just gave me a break because he knew my dad.
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If you bump the shifter UP a bit when in Reverse..do they come on?? Might need just a bit more adjusting to make them work? Mine was like that...had to just hold shifter up a tad to make them light up.

All else fails, pull the two wires from plug, install switch and then take to test. They will work then.
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WOW!!! Remind me never to move there!!! Around here we still have some places where vehicles do not have to go through emissions testing.
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If I hold the switch in the neutral position when installing it, and that worked, the truck should start when the switch is there and when I put the shifter in Park. The backup lights should come on when the switch is somewhere between where it sits when the shifter is in either Park or Neutral, correct? If the lights are coming on only when I move the switch further to the left of "Park", does that suggest that the switch is broken and I should get a new one?

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Well, right now I'd say it's just not in right position. In the past I leave truck in PARK, then install switch and move it around til it functions correctly in all positions.
Maybe the switch itself is broken?? Not sure, but the comment about lights working when in left of PARK makes me think maybe something else is wrong.
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